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::waves his hand:: This is not the Trekkie you are looking for. He may go about his business. Move along.

Talking to your microwave does not make you a hard-core trekkie. "Engaging" your car does not make you a hard-core trekkie. Having a folder for every sim you are in makes you a hard-core trekkie. Devoting that sheer amount of time and, well, space, makes me pretty jealous of some fans, seeing as I haven't attended a sim for over a month. Been getting home after 11.

Bah... I have a folder labeled "STSF" with two subfolders for the Arc and Hood in my Outlook.

Wow.... I think we have finally found the hard-core trekkie we've been looking for.

...when you have a folder on both your internet browser and mail entitled Star Trek

Because the floating hologram it would produce exceeds the normal fx budget of a single episode.

 

Many of these limitations could be attributed to just not needing all the bells and whistles. Simpler is also better in extreme conditions. The usefulness of a touchscreen display is questionable when the power goes out and all you want to do is open the escape hatch. This is why American aircraft carriers still use a plain board and little models to keep track of their aircraft.

Yeah, I understand that Trek was really supposed to be a social commentary in metaphor but, just like in Galaxy Quest, you just have to question the reasonability of some of the technology on the Enterprise. I just think that in the episode where the bridge crew views the away teams actions through Geordi's visor the technology is kind of lame, there must have been a camera the size of a communicator invented by the 24th century. Just like the amount of time the holodecks go wrong. I would work on the holodeck software after about the third time. When you get down to it, its just plot devices, but I can't help but wish that some of the technology was more thought it out, seeing as Trek is one of the only sci-fi's that actually explains its technology.

Actually, Star Trek was the first to have cell phones and bluetooths. iTunes was inspired by a Next Gen episode.

 

Maybe Apple should watch more Borg episodes for a better world domination plan.

Well, I just wish we had better computers in TOS so the computers in ENT would be justified.

Anyway, Apple is to stylish for Borg technology, and for the phones in bluetooth in Star Trek. Though I'm pretty sure you make your communicator play music if you want it to. Still, since iPhone 3G seems to surpass the technology of TNG-DS9-VOY PADDS in that it can act as a remote for something else and has a touch screen which is not just a permanent format like the LCAR system, but actually changes. Seeing as any Mac screen looks more futuristic than anything from Star Trek even after we had reached the computer era, they could have done with a good talking to.

Star Trek: "We have this idea for a button that clips unto your uniform and when you press it you ask for a person who also has a communicator and you can talk to them. It also makes a cool chirpy noise."

I can definitely see a good computer company improving that idea. Why is there no way to transmit video through a communicator in all of TNG?

Star Trek is starting to turn into steam punk because it's ideas about how technology will work and interact with people is becoming so outdated. We have now in this early part of the 21st century most of the technology presented as state of the art 23rd.

I still think that if Gene Roddenberry would have had a chat with inventors like the soon-to-be apple company instead of scientists and people who who only knew what there is already to know, (and I don't mean that scientists only know what there is already to know) , then ST:TOS might have been the first TV series to feature major soon-to-be technologies, such as an iPadd Pro and the iTricorder 3G...

Therefore, any new ST series that would occur post-VOY would have to have technology that was so complex that you couldn't see even see it, and any pre-VOY would be dull in comparison, which even Rick Berman knew, seeing as ENT had some technology way beyond TOS even if its still behind the current day technology.

I also have a feeling that a recreated TOS film might round off the franchise and thus end it nicely, but that won't happen.

I know this is a strange question, but I've seen such despisment of Enterprise even when they did not watch it enough (or at all)

You're right. I haven't seen much of ENT and I find it hard to watch. Most of my complaints against it are from the pilot. Coming from TNG as my favorite and first ST series, when I turned on ENT for the first time, it did not feel like Star Trek. TOS-TNG-DS9-VOY, if you turn on any episode of those from any timeframe and watch it for a moment, it will feel like ST. Because of that, even though I know ENT is better than a lot of stuff on TV and that being different isn't bad, I can't really enjoy an episode of ENT. Sorry. :)

The non-saved Trek books are always donated to the local library so someone else who enjoys reading science fiction can get their Trek on. I refuse to just throw a book into the trash. It's like a mortal sin or something.

I get that, I could never throw a book away.

I wish that more Star Trek related people would write the books, though even when I was reading a Shatner book with Data I still felt that he didn't know the character enough. On the other hand, in I, Q by Lancie, I think he captured Picard perfectly.

Just had my first sim, shouold be a lot of fun. Few Questions:

 

Not that i am not having fun, but what 'is' the tie frame for graduation, just so i know.

 

Thanks! :)

I saw a cadet graduate after 5 sims but its usually at least ten, I think.

Actually, I meant a completely new series, set after Voyager

You see, I would be very interested in a post-TNG.DS9.VOY series but I think the reason that ENT and the new movie were made instead of a more futuristic series because the technology after VOY is going to be ridiculously advanced that anyone who attempts it is probably going to end up looking pretty silly.

My suggestion to the Star Trek creative staff, if they haven't yet, is to go over and have a talk with Steve Jobs and the rest of the Apple team and get some ideas.

The action on the alien space station was totally predictable. While I know it would otherwise kinda kill the drama (as well as the primary character) but I can't stand it when some malfunctioning alien device just happens to throw someone across the universe or time and neatly plant them safely on a planets surface. It was a weak excuse to get Picard onto Cestus III (when he just HAPPENED to already be enroute to meet up with some Gorn). I could not see the characters saying much of their dialog. The Gorn were plain reptile aliens with what little snippets of their culture being based solely on what you'd expect from a Saturday morning cartoon about big talking lizards (ThunderLizards Ho!!!). And the ending just made me want to burn the book...which might explain why I can't find it right now. What did Picard learn about the Gorn? Punching one in the throat is a good way to say hello. BAH!!!!!

 

All that said, I admit it has been many years since I've read it and I've probably blown some of this out of proportion. I still think it was not a good story.

The problem with Star Trek is that every character should have died ten times had it not been for those amazing yet predictable circumstances in which someone is magically thrown to a random but safe area or a disease which is cured at the last moment or a space-time blip occurring right when the Enterprise blows... and those flaws are the ones I catch in the books but miss in the series just because I'm so captivated by the characters. This is really the miracle of the Star Trek franchise, though it is one of the most flawed of TV series, it is great at producing characters that will catch the public interest. One of the best examples of this is Data, who I personally felt the most for, (by the way, that moment after Data is dumped and he just picks up Spot and begins to pet him always kills me, I hear this is known as an ah-ha moment in therapy :) ), and because of the characters and the technobable we forgive them for the horrid continuity and cop outs.

An other reason why the TV version of TNG doesn't bother me as much was because of Tasha, and because they killed her they kept me scared for the crews life for the rest of the show. :)

I love Star Trek but I couldn't get past the books. My favorite series is TNG and when I tried reading one of the books I ended giving up at the third or fourth chapter because what made the characters come alive were the actors and that Data isn't Data if its only words on a page. Data is only Data if its Brent Spiner playing Data.

The only book I actually enjoyed was I, Q because it was just a narration, but when I needed to return it to the library and I was only half a way through I couldn't bother to renew it. That's not a good sign.

Also, a problem I'm having with the books is contradictions.

I might try some again soon, I'll monitor this topic to find any recommendations.

Actually I thought the idea for Enterprise was an excellent one for a TV series. I would have done it differently tho. The series would be all about how Starfleet came about and the Federation. First contacts with the different species, meeting the ancestors of everyone (Kirk, Spock, Picard, etc), the creation of the Prime Directive, the building of Starfleet Academy, the perfecting of star trek technology, the forming of all the treaties, the creation of the neutral zone, etc. I think it would be cool to have a series that shows how everthing happened and then progressed.

Me, too. I was so excited about ENT because I thought it would show all the prime directive and first contact stuff being written, and the klingon friction, which ENT kept hinting at but never actually did. But now that ENT has been done you can't do that series anymore and the only way to go is forward, which is why I think that Star Trek is really losing its timing now, with the new movie.

Captain Morgan Bateson was Kelsey Grammer's character from the TNG episode "Cause & Effect", where Data helped the Soyuz-Class U.S.S. Bozeman NCC 1941 avoid a collision during a temporal causality loop with the USS Enterprise-D. He also had temporary command of the Enterprise-E in Diane Carey's "Ship Of The Line".

 

More information here:

http://www.geocities.com/trekfan1975/Vonnegut.html

Meaning that the proposed Star Trek series would have to be either pre or during TNG-DS9-VOY timeline, though I think what Star Trek needs is a series a good couple of centuries ahead of VOY because of ENT and the new movie which is going to over-explore the pre-TDV centuries.

Travis, that happened a loonngg time ago.

 

The resident Wayward victorian,

Ali

I just came back from WALL-E, and according to disney/pixar, we can still save the world. So we can dump Captain V'Roy and worship Walt Disney.

By the way, I recommend WALL-E for Star Trek fans since the second half is copied word for word from Star Trek.

I suppose I should be worshiping a higher being for putting in CTRL+C and CTRL+P

Yup, I just copy mine at the start of the sim and hope to remember to paste it. :P

Hello, I am new to the whole simming idea for the most part, I was able to spend a month or so in one, but the website basicaly died on us and it never came back up. I am not sure as to whether or not I am supposed to put my biography somewhere or what, but I hope to start simming soon, going to join the Holodeck tonight. My simming experience is just that I know its roleplay, and I have done good roleplay in other games ect. and I like to believe I know a good bit about StarTrek and all the things incorporated into it.

Welcome Syndalar!

Have you read the help and rules section of the STSF page?

Basically, you start out in the Academy sims, which are every night at 9 or 10, (12 on Saturdays), in which every sim you play a different role until the game hosts graduate you. This takes around 3-20 sims, I think. Once you graduate the academy you join an advanced sim in which you have a permanent role and character.

Hope to see you soon. :P

A rebuilt ship and a seasoned Captain that finds himself temporally out-of-step with his environment. The new era (2379 - ?) of exploration in front of him.

 

Captain Morgan "Bulldog" Bateson leads a new diversified crew of Humans, Tellarites, Trill, Vulcans & Edosians aboard the Loknar III-Class U.S.S. Vonnegut, brought together from components of damaged Miranda & Sovereign-Class vessels salvaged from the Dominion War battlefield known as Rashanar (from the "A Time To..." pro-lit mini-series.)

 

http://www.geocities.com/trekwriter31/FanFic.html

Somehow I find that it would be difficult to find a crew to serve for a captain nicknamed Bulldog. :P

if you like really bad weather, "chavs" and subtle rasicm then it the place to be >.>

 

and seriously, i love this Mr.Scott thing you've all got going on. it's brilliant!

Well, personally I would prefer that good ole fog and drizzly weather to American pacific humidity, and subtle racism to our political correctness. :P Welcome aboard!

I do love The Orginal Series and Deep Space Nine as well. TNG and VOY are just ok with me.

I'd rather watch any Star Trek rather than anything else, but TOS is a bit old for me and ENT is a bit new. My favs are TNG and DS9, and I'm okay with VOY.

I think whatever Star Trek is your first Star Trek will probably be your favorite. Sadly, mine was Insurrection which put me off Star Trek for about a year or two until somebody finally sat me down in front of TNG, Season 1, The Last Output, and since then I've been addicted.

LOL, we probably did. Just wait a few decades, and the clothes will be back. :) (Then we'll be cool again)

Decades? I betcha they'll be back by 2009. :P

I'm going to hate the new movie. WHy? Because only William Shatner is Kirk, only Nimoy is Spock, only James Doohan (rest in peace) is Scott, only DeForrest Kelly (Rest in peace) is McCoy, ect. ect. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Argh! I know! I feel your pain!

This has already happened to me. When I learned they were making a Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, I swear, I cried out, "Simon Jones is Arthur Dent and the book is Peter Jones!" Also, when I saw Ford Prefect on the advert I thought, "Man, that's not Ford. Thats some action figure who belongs in 'Transformers!'"

But still, the movie is made for the general audience and not for fans, and might jump-start the dying Star Trek franchise. Anyway, because of all most having a heart attack from frustration during the Hitchhiker film, I promised myself that I would just enjoy the new Star Trek film, because I know that I will, just like all the other Star Trek fans, will see the movie on the first filming within 100 miles, even though I know I will hate it.

Then again- I thought I would hate DS9 after TNG and ended up getting addicted to it and liking it almost as much. On the other hand, I braced myself on the sofa while pressing the play button, (actually, engage or launch button on Star Trek menus), of the first disk of Enterprise, and found myself cursing loudly throughout the entire two part pilot.

My problem is that I love Star Trek so much, (at least TNG and DS9, I'm less fond of TOS VOY ENT, even though I'd rather watch them then anything else), that I feel responsible for it and I hate not being able to phone J.J. and to ask, plead, that he rethink letting another actor be Kirk. William Shatner is Kirk! William Shatner is Kirk!

Too late. :)

Although maybe they could let Tim Allen be Kirk, for his stellar Shatner performance in Galaxy Quest. :P

Which goes to show just how prescient DS9 was.

 

There are so many things about the Cardassians and the Dominion War arc that wound up having parallels with current world events. The imagery of the Breen surprise attack on San Fransisco, the issues of a wealthy democracy fighting a war for survival.

 

BSG explores the same issues (note that Ron Moore was involved with both), but does so from a contemporary setting. DS9 envisioned it before those conditions were real. That's one of the reasons DS9 is the most enduring of the Trek series for me.

 

On topic:

... you sit around late at night composing arguments on why your favorite Trek series is THE best of the series...

Well, besides Star Trek being a brilliant foreteller of the future with the possible exception of the third world war, Star Trek also makes exceptional references to past events, since Gene Roddenberry actually wanted to do a series in the future so that he could commentary on controversial issues that he wasn't allowed to talk about in The Lieutenant.

On topic:

... you sing Data's life form song while at work, adding your own words to suit your career.

They ain't so tough.

Yah, if them pandarians ever show their faces again, ole Captain V'Roy the panda killer will get them! All hail V'Roy!

TOS only "failed" because NBC pulled the plug after three seasons, but lived on in syndication for many years before TMP hit the big screen. And The Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, and The Undiscovered Country were relative successes.

I wonder if TOS had a large enough audience for a 4th season. It didn't really have the crowd that TNG did, that I know of, but Star Trek movies have always been made for the public audience.

On topic:

... You find yourself debating politics using Star Trek references... "well, its just like the dominion wars, aint it?"... only to receive blank stares from your friends.

We all have our favorites within ST, and what better way was there to create interest in old fans and new than to tell the story from a point of view not yet explored? Exploring the future is great, but how much more intersting is it to try and figure out from the archielogical evidence how we got here? Look at what they are doing with the movie, after all. Yet again they are going to an era before TOS.

Though I don't know why. TOS and ENT failed so why do they expect the movie not to?